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Ah yea i was confused of the context yes real environment HDR Photo Integration Layer ;)

Consistent Results is one of my Goals but it is bloody hard
 
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Ah yea i was confused of the context yes real environment HDR Photo Integration Layer ;)
Hmm, I didn't know that users can load their own HDRI maps - cool.
Consistent Results is one of my Goals but it is bloody hard
What are the criteria of consistency, with what exactly? Are you talking about the expectations of a certain target group? In my opinion, if we talk about the materials of the room, then it is worth working with the carpet (with a reflection coefficient), as well as placing furniture so that it does not fall under the floor.

As for "bloody hard", then usually such emotional experiences, in relation to intellectual work, the result of low qualifications. Accordingly, you should first learn something to a good level and only then move on to practice:

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If we talk about goals, then it seems to me that the creation of the entourage is not so critical, the main importance is the elaboration of the characters, without which the result can be counterproductive:
 
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Come on the Water is perfect pollux312
I already managed to find plugin for the skyboxes, thanks. But I'm wondering if there is a plugins for "VAM" that allows to load files in .hdr format ???

You aren't afraid of me, i don't scare you to death ? :)
The girl's model is well done, except for the skin, there are problems with texture and reflection maps (human skin is distinguished from rubber by its rough texture):


First Time Experience with Anna
An amazingly high quality scene! Without Anna this room is indistinguishable from the real one. If we talk about the reasons that make this girl unrealistic, then in my opinion the main problem with the quality of the skin texture, which, as it was said, is devoid of realistic reflection maps. For example, the details of the skin are much better for this model.
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Yes but Specular Response is very dependent on the lighting and distance (macro space) the oilyness params of the persons skin and overall that skin above is in it's overall response not very realistic you can get this kind of white in overcast with some very pale human with a very thin dermis but it looks different you mostly get it in bath environment GI.

Though real skins color and light reaction is hyper complex so complex we hardly realize it in real life anymore that we can be kind of a chameleon
melanin itself is fascinating :)

Though these days we see a lot of unnatural light reactions due to lots of makeup as well (Foundation,Skin Toner,Powder)

Eye Reality is slightly different than Artificial Optical Lense Reality as well only since a relative short time period we try to mimic HDR and Subsurface Scattering in Cameras and Digital Results and it often still looks funny compared to how our eyes are actually percepting it.

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You should take a look at the new Cyberpunk Light Demo to see what i mean it is awesome :)
Stability of VAM has gotten also a bit better it goes slowly into direction of the 2.00 release :)
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Yes but Specular Response is very dependent on the lighting and distance (macro space) the oilyness params of the persons skin and overall that skin above is in it's overall response not very realistic you can get this kind of white in overcast with some very pale human with a very thin dermis but it looks different you mostly get it in bath environment GI.
Well, I did not claim that the presented sample of skin is an ideal, that images have relatively greater realism (in comparison with Anna's skin). At the same time, I believe that the only way within which we can create realistic skin for a virtual VAM environment is multispectral imaging of real human skin in order to build luminosity maps:
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The image above shows the exceptional visible spectrum, and as we can see, the appearance of the skin directly depends on the temperature of the luminous flux. At the same time, as we understand on an ordinary sunny day, the full spectrum falls on the human skin, but at the same time, depending on the angle of inclination of the skin surface, it is re-reflected in a narrower spectrum, which gives skin tones.

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At the same time, it is also important that melanin has a different reflectance coefficient in relation to the wavelengths of the visible diapason (see diagram above). It is also noteworthy that the distribution of melatanin in the skin is not permanent, since the conglomerates of melanocytes are distributed rather locally.

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To the extent that the level of melatonin in the skin directly affects the reflectance coefficient at the beginning of the visible spectrum, but does not have an effect already from the middle of that.

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Due to the described pattern in the range from green to red, skin pigmentation becomes no longer distinguishable in ascending order, therefore, we would not be able to see this tan in red light.

Though real skins color and light reaction is hyper complex so complex we hardly realize it in real life anymore that we can be kind of a chameleon melanin itself is fascinating :)
I believe that skin imaging is a multifactorial system with many variables, the number of which is large, but still finite. Therefore, creating realistic skin in a virtual environment is a solvable task that may require additional research.

Though these days we see a lot of unnatural light reactions due to lots of makeup as well (Foundation,Skin Toner,Powder)
By the way, this imposes the need to revise the logic of the slots for the characteristics of the skin in VAM, in theory, each individual material should have a local subsystem of reflection maps, bump maps, etc., where the area of application should be determined by the alpha channel.

Eye Reality is slightly different than Artificial Optical Lense Reality as well only since a relative short time period we try to mimic HDR and Subsurface Scattering in Cameras and Digital Results and it often still looks funny compared to how our eyes are actually percepting it.
And ironically, this is an argument in favor of virtual reality and digital processing, since our visual perception is very far from perfect, this is only the result of evolutionary transformations designed to adapt to the conditions of the environment, which was fundamentally different from the one where we live now.

Actually, it is hardly reasonable to think that prehistoric man could afford such a luxury as many hours of free time, that he could devote himself to abstraction of details in a field of application that has nothing to do with his survival. And here, we come to the very meaning of why a VAM is needed (as a tool), relying on the fact that person emotional experiences rests on a biological basis, which can be expressed as a set of hormonal background variables. At the same time, taking into account the thesis that the quality of a person's life is determined by the sum of accumulated impressions. It is not difficult to conclude that the VAM can act as a tool for recreation or desensitization, where by spending several hours a week a person can satisfy some aesthetic or sexual needs in a socially acceptable way.

You should take a look at the new Cyberpunk Light Demo to see what i mean it is awesome :)
Yes, I took a look thanks, quite entertaining.

Stability of VAM has gotten also a bit better it goes slowly into direction of the 2.00 release :)
If you are talking about the VAM version, then I have 1.20.1.5
 
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You know what you talking about :) rare :D
Understanding all these relations means you are very interested in this topic or it's even your profession nice to see you found VAM ;)

Epic is going to push MetaHuman we gonna see how that is going and how the Saas approach is going to look like in the End :)

Epic has reached a very interesting state with it now through the acquisition of 3Lateral and Cubic Motions ML work floating into their Cloud Creator.
And they indirectly start to make some shake their shoes like Reallusion and Daz
But we are overall very far away from the Perfect Simulation not including the AI

I think it's very nice that we have currently this indirect battle between Unreal and Unity on this part :)

It's interesting that Crytek has slowed down on this they still had the lead

But VAM combines so much complexity of every part of the simulation chain together :)

It will be really interesting to see how fast other Unreal Powered Projects gonna reach it like Holodexxx,Captain Hardcore or Naughty Sandbox they are still a mini part of the overall VAM possible Realtime complexity, but well see and they're still new projects trying it inside of Unreal :)
It will be very interesting how especially Chaos is gonna work out on this for them (excluding Captain Hardcore for now) :)

Virginia is her Porn Alias, Anna her Real Name ;)
i let you define her Age im interested, what you think how old she is or better what age do you perceive :)

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Understanding all these relations means you are very interested in this topic or it's even your profession nice to see you found VAM
The subject of discussion is not my professional field, I am a computer engineer with a PhD degree. Accordingly, what is written here is just the result of analytical thinking skills.

But we are overall very far away from the Perfect Simulation not including the AI
The introduction of AI is a glorious goal, and such an innovation would negate the very possibility of sexual exploitation and humiliation of women. Because, if the software product is better than porn and webcams, then these professions will no longer be in demand. At the same time, in the future, it is possible to tax the producers of sexual AI stimulation, so that afterwards the funds can be used for free education for girls from mining towns, by alcoholic parents, etc. Accordingly, VAM has the potential to make the world a better place. In my opinion, there are no women whores and prostitutes, because, in 100% of cases, if we consider causal connections, such an outcome is the result of the presence of unworthy motives in men. I am writing this as a man who respects and values women.
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But VAM combines so much complexity of every part of the simulation chain together :)
Among the skin enhancements I suggested above, it is probably worth adding an initiative with dynamic-procedural skin materials: vascular system and the formation of sweat. Where droplets of dripping sweat will be the result of procedural textures in the slots: bump and reflections.
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A similar approach can be implemented in relation to a deffuse map, where a local procedural layer with skin areas where there are many veins on the surface can be applied on top of the main layer, which will simulate many physiological and emotional processes.

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Also, it is worth implementing traces of local redness in the places of touch by the user, which will disappear after 15 seconds.
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Virginia is her Porn Alias, Anna her Real Name
i let you define her Age im interested, what you think how old she is or better what age do you perceive :)
I don't need to know her real name, and I hope that such information will never become known to the public. In my opinion, one of the advantages that the Vam virtual environment can provide for people is an increase in the level of anonymity of people involved in the sex industry. Thus, giving them a chance to preserve their human dignity, where the general public will not identify their personalities as unworthy people.

You should study clinical and sociological studies, according to which the largest percentage of drug addiction and suicide cases occur on webcam models, porn actresses and prostitutes. In fact, drugs act as a mechanism due to which naive girls reform their thinking, depriving those moral imperatives, changing their worldview and self-identity due to the so-called "dopamine trap", where this process is called "pathological learning". And often we are talking about underage girls, which is one of the most acute problems of our time.. I advise you to watch the movie: - great social drama about the loss of moral imperatives.

Accordingly, VAM has the potential to carry out a humanistic mission, where the positions of webcam models and pornographic actresses will no longer be in demand among potential consumers. Since the quality of the elaboration of the image of the sexual stimulus in the VAP will be several times higher than their real counterparts. To the extent that, the market for sexual services itself will change, where there will be no demand for specialties that sexually exploit a woman, depriving her of her dignity, social status and as a result of the future. Due to the development of the API for motion capture, the very girls who yesterday were forced to semi-legally trade the visual image of their bodies will become only actors for animation, in conditions where their rights and anonymity of their personal lives will be protected.
 
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Tough the other side of the Coin yet is also not pleasant
hear for example Reily Reid and what she thinks of new possibilities (over and over and over)


I hear what you say and i understand your point entirely i myself researched a lot on Pornstar deaths and the real ugly sides of Pornwood.
But you see what a BlackHat (ex Porn Pass Cracker) did with it he transformed it into something even more demanding after overtaking it in the right time (Mindgeek) a crazy SEO based Production Machine.
The last case was especially hurting it was the Case of Violet Rain .
Violet Rain was a very interesting Latin NeoTeny
Due to my research i know a bit more about her past her childhood her fantasies she had a imaginative model agency also part of her troublesome life which she tried to escape.
There are also some really disturbing videos of her talking like apathetic when she was a child like she was abused maybe also a reason she became partly this cold with herself i suspect a deep trauma which she tried to bury in her childhood with building up this imaginative model agency and later with drugs and sex and then she meet her killers gustavo doesn't tells the whole story she was pretty heavy anal abused at that unknown location from where she came and before she got dropped off at the hospital.
Her Plan though was to leave the Adult Industry as fast as possible she wanted to get connections to the upper Hollywood class opening her legs for them.
She was also a bit desperate that she didn't get a Exclusive Anal Deal with Vixens they denied her because of her Agency not on the most liked list "Motley Models".



Im also for a change but not such a crazy fast one like for example they try to accomplish in their religious believes


Though what destroyed her initially was not what she did it was the response from the outside, yes they where partly lured into it and yes those guys where abusers and had no respect of them at all but they agreed todo it in the end they aren't Angels I'll never forget "Tell him to fuck you harder".

On the Tech Side yes more Procedural based things are needed and yes a blush map (dynamic blood flow) is a very interesting thing and you can see it partly already being done for example in Paralogue (Unreal) they use such a map and change the opacity layer wise when she is aroused :)
But more and more layers will make it more and more complex of what we talked about, this is currently only done in Hollywood renders and simulation systems on these levels yet impractical realtime we just starting to enter hybrid raytracing slowly.

PS: Hmm Interesting Violets Interview she gave Dave Naz was deleted

I wonder what would have happened if a WhiteHat would have overtaken the industry instead :)
But the logic of course a WhiteHat would have never done it that way from behind knowing future consequences.

Though never forget the old Powers in Play as well like the Mafia, all this is no easy fight and many have to fight it with themselves first.
 
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But I have this problem on Windows 10 (20h2). i see - just old updater in topic - remove it!:devilish:
Download from here & no problems -
 
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are there new codes? seems VAM has updated to 1.20.77.9
the last codes i used were
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i don't know if they work on the new release
 

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Let's watch them enjoying each other :)
He's a teaser but she likes it :)
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Overnight Stability test Successful :)
gonna port all my results over
Some very Extreme Physics Overhead on this old 4 Core almost the entire frametime is physics, very strange.

Some slight modifications and she could be Angelina Jolie ;)

Located the Physics overhead but it is still strange i have to test this more carefully to understand what is going on and why it suddenly exploded +10ms for no at least visible reason and caused in the end this massive render slowdown.
Latency is pretty good :)
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It's really fascinating if so many things that feel real come together how our brain starts to believe it
The latency of the movements so low it has so much effect even just watching it

Here is some tweaked result of what we talked about and in your pale Caucasian skin response :)
close to how we perceive it under cold light conditions and what many define as youthfull and are used to see from many Asian countries as a beauty mark and which fools partly also our perception on age detection and which partly photographers/makeup artists use out of their beautification trick box as well as Photoshop Igor ;)

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Does anyone have any tips for seated play? increasing Height also seems to lift the character im trying to possess into the air for some reason.

Also anyone know how to get cloth stripping working?
 

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I need some help,
Have an Oculus Rift S but can't get the game to work so far. I start it but it remains black screen on desktop and my Oculus only says "Loading..." but no matter how long I wait nothing happens but it has not hung up. It should not lie in the hardware with a RTX 3090, an AMD Ryzen 9 3900x and 32 GB RAM and use Windows 10.
My antivirus has also not detected or blocked anything.

I also looked at all the developer stuff on this:
I have not saved the VAM in a protected folder.
I have overwritten the updater with the current updater from Patreon and then have over the launcher, the game update.
The updater is not blocked by Windows.
However, I recently tried to run the benchmarks, also the .bat files. But there happens exactly the same, only a black screen and is that normal? I'm beginning to wonder if there is just a strict order to be followed? Do I need to do the benchmarks before updating? or i forgot something? :unsure:
Hope the information is enough and hope someone knows something.
 

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I need some help,
Have an Oculus Rift S but can't get the game to work so far. I start it but it remains black screen on desktop and my Oculus only says "Loading..." but no matter how long I wait nothing happens but it has not hung up. It should not lie in the hardware with a RTX 3090, an AMD Ryzen 9 3900x and 32 GB RAM and use Windows 10.
My antivirus has also not detected or blocked anything.

I also looked at all the developer stuff on this:
I have not saved the VAM in a protected folder.
I have overwritten the updater with the current updater from Patreon and then have over the launcher, the game update.
The updater is not blocked by Windows.
However, I recently tried to run the benchmarks, also the .bat files. But there happens exactly the same, only a black screen and is that normal? I'm beginning to wonder if there is just a strict order to be followed? Do I need to do the benchmarks before updating? or i forgot something? :unsure:
Hope the information is enough and hope someone knows something.
did you download any addons?
have you tried disabling your VR and using only Desktop mode with Admin?
Have you tried downloading from the First Post then updating using the launcher?
i could give you my VAM but it's 40GB on MEGA. it will take 10 days to download if you don't have Pro.
 
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did you download any addons?
have you tried disabling your VR and using only Desktop mode with Admin?
Have you tried downloading from the First Post then updating using the launcher?
i could give you my VAM but it's 40GB on MEGA. it will take 10 days to download if you don't have Pro.
" did you download any addons? "
> no addons or mods, just the default game.

" have you tried disabling your VR and using only Desktop mode with Admin?
> When I try the desktop mode in admin, I get an error "VaM.exe not found..."

Have you tried downloading from the First Post then updating using the launcher?
> I have the 4 parts just unzipt together and then updatet the launcher, the launcher also times overwritten with the current.

i could give you my VAM but it's 40GB on MEGA. it will take 10 days to download if you don't have Pro.
> Thanks for the offer but that would be a bit overkill for me. XD

By the way, I wonder why there are the 4 parts when the launcher also downloads everything?
 

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Ok, so maybe one of you big-brains on here can help me. I'm a new user with no experience or knowledge in unity and only so little knowledge of VaM to get by.
I use VaM in desktop-mode and started in 1.19. On the Hub, there is a nice tool you can download, called VR180 Recorder Helper by a user named VamXFan. It's basically just a scene + some assetbundle that gets merge-loaded into the scene you want to record in OBS. You can process and output the video to your phone after recording which is nice, since I don't have a VR-Headset but instead use the phone-in-a-cardboard method for VR-content...

Now that VaM is on 1.20.x. all the great plugins you can get on the Hub and elsewhere often don't work in 1.19.x. The same is unfortunately true the other way around:
I can't get the Helper-scene to load in 1.20. My assumption is that it is because of the different way, the WindowCamera in 1.20 works... in 1.19 there was only the "control"-tab to choose for the WindowCamera. Now when you click on the WindowCamera atom you get to choose between control and display-control.

Problem is, VamXFan seems to be no longer active (last comment on the Hub is from December) so there is no way to contact him to ask/beg for an update. I tried looking into the .json file but to no avail. I also tried to get into unity to open the assetbundle and maybe see if there was something I can do, but unity is behind a license wall and since I have no idea what I'm doing, I fear it would'nt do good anyway. As a last measure, I tried manually rebuilding the Helper-scene in 1.20 but it fails everytime I try to parent the WindowCamera to the assetbundle-stuff to replicate the settings in the original scene (game freeze and manual exit).

Can someone please do either of the following things:
1. look into the VR180 Recorder Helper scene and see if they can update it to work in 1.20?
or
2. teach me a different way to export VR stereoscopic video from VaM?

Thank you
(to moderators: I'm not sure if I should post this here, or in the mod-sharing thread for the game. Thanks for your patience!)
 
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